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  1. Nigel Yip

    Hi Gary,

    Thanks for your message on my blog- your new idea of summarising the key points would be a brilliant idea – I’ve seen a few blogs of other students who have already done something similar i.e. they’ve listed the key bullet points from Alex’s webinar so it would be worthwhile to do especially if you can also put your own perspective or some examples as well. Plus, you can use it as a quick reminder to yourself each day.

    Now, where to draw the line on ethical’ness’ – this will be something of a grey area as it’s like if you were to copy ones work and not to add anything else to it – then this would be plagiarizing and unethical practice, however if you were combining both yours and others work, along with some decent research or things to back up, then that would be called research

    But then that said, when I was at university, I was taught that

    “even paraphrasing or summarizing someone else’s ideas is plagarizm”

    but then that’s university. I meant If I were to read an ebook and rephrase the material within it for your own use, you may want to consider or thinking a moment to yourself as to : ‘So where did HE get his info from?’, ‘What sources did he use to research and compile the ebook?’.

    This is why I admire Alex so much, not just because of his success, but also the fact that, if he does use anything or any ideas that he learnt and are not his, he quote his sources i.e. his mentors, Mike Filsaime, Rich Schrefen etc…. and what they said rather than those hype up marketers who make you believe that it was them whio came up with the new radical yet original ideas.

    Anyway, sorry about the long post, but it was something that I was geuinely interested in sharing my views about and I do apologise in advance if I have offended you or anyone else. Sorry!!!

    All the best!
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  2. Gary

    Hi Nigel,

    First up – NO offence taken at all. I wanted honest answers and you gave one. I appreciate honesty above all else.

    I definitely wouldn’t plagiarise. I have had so many articles that I have written scraped and/or stolen then rebadged under some under-achiever’s name that I have lost count.

    Copyright theft and plagiarism is RAMPANT on the internet. People have taken “free” to mean anything-goes, including stealing.

    Plus I always quotes sources and give attribution wherever possible. I have 100’s of my own articles that I have written that I can draw from – if need be. In fact, I can easily write a completely new article in under 15 minutes flat.

    So, I’m gonna take your reply in the affirmative.

    Score to date: Yes = 1 and No = 0.

    If and when the yes score reaches 10 more than no I will do it. Unless of course, Alex Jeffreys says no. I give him the right to veto it.

    Thanks-a-mill Nigel.

    Gary Simpson

  3. Sandra Rodrigues

    Hey Gary,

    Many thanks for visiting my site and leaving comments. In this very early stages it means a lot to have support. So thanks again for that.

    I literally just had my first encounter with someone ‘stealing’ my content. The blog is soooo new and someone just took a chunk of on of my posts and used in their post in their blog!

    I still don’t know whether to feel flattered or threated. Obviously is not a big deal right now because the blog is just being built and all the posts are very personal, etc. So no products being sold ot anything like that being available for stealing but still. It feels weird you know?

    I think that you don’t have to worry about plagiarism because you wouldn’t be taking the steps you are before hand and be so honest and up front. Only a honest person would take the careful step of ‘checking’ it first. You wouldn’t do that and is very clear.

    Over the GPS program. The one that Alex is also in, with Rich Schefren, there is a collegue who did a marvelous job at putting together all the important steps of each module that we covered. He began because what Rich tought us was extremely advanced suff and there were quite a few people feeling overwhelmed with digesting the information.

    So what he did was to make it simpler and a step-step guide if you will to Rich’s module. He did a awesome job at putting hyperlinks in the document so the reader will be finishing his/hers review of that one module and be ‘taken’ to the next step directly and only when he/she finished that one.

    I must tell you that was a hit with everyone falling behind and even Rich was so impressed with his work that he made very clear that he would be compensating the guy for his hard work.

    So, all I am saying is one is worth doing it. If anything else, for your own advantage, you will be re-digesting the information and you will be capturing under a different perspective and you can include your own point of view and apply your own experience to it as an example, etc.

    Also other students will be glad and very thankfull of your imput and not to mention that if you managed to come up with something valuable in time you can turn it into a product. Obviously what Nigel said goes without saying, for mentioning resources, etc but then we go back to how I started my point of you. You wouldn’t be taking the time and bother to ‘check’ it out first. You are obviously a honest guy.

    My opinion is that you can always rich out to Alex himself. One of the major reasons for me to signing up for this course was the knowledge that he would be very avaiable. The guy is a sweet heart and he replies his emails himself and you can always have a chat and see how he feels about it.

    Best of luck and keep up the good work,

    Sandra
    In Joy With My Self
    http://www.motherlymarketing.com

  4. Gary

    Hi Sandra,

    That was such a nice and detailed reply and I thank you very sincerely.

    Don’t worry too much about what happened. It has happened to me 1,000’s of times. People trawl my articles, scrape them, add their own names as the author (damn them!), bang them up on their own sites, surround them with Google Adsense ads and delete all other avenuse of escape. inexperienced people then click on the adverts and the crook makes money. That is such a PATHETIC way to scrounge money.

    Maybe you can politely ask the person to put your words in quotes and append your name to it. maybe they are inexperienced and just don’t know. I always try to give the person the benefit of the doubt first time around.

    Thanks for your comments of what that other fellow did. I’m taking this all on board and my mind is working in hyper-drive right now. I have ideas coming from every direction (including a product idea).

    I’m gonna take your reply in the affirmative too.

    Score to date: Yes = 2 and No = 0.

    Regards

    Gary Simpson.

    PS: Someone else has answered this question in another thread. As soon as I have time I will bring it over here and include it.

  5. Ted Newman

    Hi Gary,

    I think you are completely on the right track with giving your own appraisal of what Alex is teaching about his business strategies in your own words is definitely the right way to go.

    Just keep the balance right between what you tell and how you actually tell it.

    I agree with what Nigel and you say about plagiarism and if someone goes out and literally repeats what someone else has said verbatim and passes it off as their own then thats definitely plagiarism.

    By passing on your own thoughts, you are adding another dimension to the original comment and that is fine in my book and I’m sure in this instance Alex will have no problem with that at all as I intend myself to give so much away without diluting what us as members have paid for.

    If you consider PLR material you can literally take that material as is and add your name to it and pass it off as your own as long as you have a license to do so, without that license it’s plagiarism, so yes there is a bit of a ‘Grey area’ around all of it and people will take advantage as you rightly stated in your reply to Nigel.

    Since you have been so ‘UP Front’ with your intentions I can honestly see no problem for you at all and I would encourage you to do it…I will be coming back to check up anyway just in case my one brain cell misses anything! ;-)

    Good luck and I’ll be in touch.

    Cheers

    Ted

    http://www.tednewman.name

  6. Gary

    Hi Ted,

    Yes that is what I would be doing – giving my own appraisal. I wouldn’t scrape content. I’d definitely put it in my own words.

    I’m a bit concerned about giving too much away because participants have paid for this information. I’d probably pare it back to a bare bones general overview with a few stats thrown in to make various points.

    But, as I said before, I will completely drop the idea if it is not in accordance with the wishes of Alex Jeffreys.

    Even if he says NO I think this discussion is extremely valuable because we are discussing what can and can’t be done.

    One idea would be to run it past Alex first and allow him to selectively edit it. It will all depend on how much detail I would include.

    Like I said above I have some heavy-duty synapses firing in my brain at the moment.

    Alex, where are you?

    Oh… I nearly forgot – Score to date: Yes = 3 and No = 0.

    Thanks again Ted!

    Regards

    Gary Simpson

  7. Gary

    Okey-dokey,

    Seems kinda dumb posting this to myself but…

    I just thought I would allay any concerns. I have emailed Alex Jeffreys and alerted him to this thread. I certainly don’t want to be breaching protocol or knocking off proprietary and privileged information. And I know lots of people have paid for this too.

    But keep the responses coming folks! This is a very informational discussion we are having which is CENTRAL to Web 2.0 Marketing – INTEGRITY and REPUTATION.

    Have your say – yay or nay. It doesn’t matter to me. I’m just interested in the opinions and I VALUE them all.

    Best wishes to you all.

    Gary Simpson.

  8. Nigel Yip

    Hi Gary,

    Just thought I popped by to see how things were going and I’ve noticed some really good responses and ideas going on here in this discussion. Alex should really take sone note on this as this will be question that many other students will probably be asking sooner or later.

    Now, before I babble on anything else – you definately get my vote on the idea for summarising key points. It will be most useful.

    As for PLR licences etc.. well don’t get me started on it lol – Why? It’s good for the person/author but not for you. The reason is the writer/author who originally sold you the PLR license will no doubt have lots of their own affiliates links hidden within the ebook where they get paid commission. This effectively is helping them secretly generate more sales traffic to their affiliate links and sites, obviously, at the cost of yours. Think 1 vs 10 and you will know what I mean.

    For example, you bought the PLR guide for $27. You then got some hosting, loaded the sales page, edited your personal links to the payment page, followed by rebranding the ebook. After some promotion some newbies come and buy from you. Great. But have you considered the balance of sales?

    By this I mean, you may have your own link (thats 1) at the front of the guide telling them that you were a promoter or seller of the ebook, but usually below, there is usually a website link to the original seller as well which will probably take them to another sales page. Combine this and the aforementioned links I mentioned that were hidden in the ebook, they are effectively using you to help make them 4,5,6,7, 8, 9, even up to 10 more sales just from the same PLR ebook guide that you just sold to your new customers.

    Do you see what I now mean by 1 Vs 10 – you get 1 link Vs their 10 links hidden around the ebook. Now I’m not trying to offend anyone here by saying not to buy them, it just that I thought that everyone should be aware of viral marketing tactics these hype up marketers use. Again, this is another clear example of where do you draw the line on ethics.

    Some may call this practice of marketing and generating sales un-ethical and some may not. I will let you decide as to which side of the fence you would like sit on as I don’t want flood this page about this issue, although given some time, I could probably and easily write 30 pages on PLR rights and what we should really know about them.

    But then I guess if I did write such a thing, I would probably be kicked off Alex’s course, be sued by all the other internet marketers and any mentor who saw my name or ip address would blacklist me. Plus nobody would support me – oh well!

    Best Regards to everyone anyway and thanks to those who did not fall asleep from reading this post.

    Nigel

    PS: I guess what I’ve just said is one of the reasons why my blog has just gone down.

  9. Steve

    Gary,

    The simplest way to determine if this is ethical is to decide who may be harmed by it? The answer of course is that potentially Alex might be harmed, because you’re paraphrasing his content.

    So why not ask him what he thinks about you posting here? I’ve so far written two support tickets to him and received a response from Hazel to both within four hours, and an e-mail from Alex about one of the tickets within a day.

    Steve

  10. Carl Janiei

    Hey Gary!

    Wow! Every post here is so sincere. I’m really starting to like this community.

    I too have had this thought as I took some great notes from the module 1 webinar. I have always been a fan of planning and time management although never really had a good strategy for it. As I learn it I’d really like to make my business around time management. I have some interesting ideas for it already.

    The first problem is what should we actually share. Maybe it would not only be unethical to the creator of the content but also to the whole coaching group who paid their way in to gain this knowledge. So the suggestion on making it private for Alex’s coahing group may be a very good idea depending on the detail and the way the material would be presented.

    The second issue is how to present the material and this has been discussed in the posts I’ve read above. Enough of your own spin on things and you’d be in the clear in my book.

    PS.
    I took you up on your suggestion and copied your blog roll :) I noticed some error in the links. The link to Anthony Arias should have a .net at the end instead of a .com Then there were some dead once which I don’t remember. You’d see them if you compared your blogroll to mine :)
    .DS

  11. Carl Janiei

    Did anyone realize I sort of said yay in my post? :)

  12. Will Lim

    Hi Gary.

    Personally I think it’s fine if you summarize them in your own words. I think we need to be clear on our intention of doing things. We are not just simply copy things from other just to fill in content for our site. We are sharing what we have learned that we think that might be helpful to others.

    So it’s about helping people and giving value and we are giving things we have learned. It’s about providing value to our readers. We are not only sharing things we learn from Alex, we can share anything we learned that are helpful to others, right?

    That is my opinion. I don’t think it is wrong to share with other what we have learned unless we signed contract saying that we are not suppose to share the content of the program to outsiders.

    How’s the respond from Alex? I want to know what Alex thinks about this too.

    Best regards,
    Will
    http://WillLim.com

  13. Mark Austin

    Hi Gary,

    Going to keep this short as my to do list is getting out of control!

    I say go for it, it’s going to be your own take on it and can only be good for you as it will make it all clearer in your own mind. What’s the score now then?

    Thanks for leaving another comment on my blog, you did make me laugh that you thought of me as your ‘go to techie guy’. Believe me, I’m no expert!

    Have put another post up and looking for some feedback re poss ebook, so pop over if you find the time.

    All the best,
    Mark
    http://missioninternetmarketing.com

  14. Gary

    Gee…

    What a GREAT bunch of replies. You guys are THINKERS and wow…

    … I ADMIRE thinkers.

    OK. There is so much to answer here. I will answer all the salient points in each individual post.

    First… Nigel Yip

    … Nigel – fascinating. Your understanding here of PLR is very good. If I need to know anything more about this I will DEFINITELY come to you. You are a font of knowledge.

    See the talent here folks? Look at the information that is being diseminated here. All of us have different talents and specialties that the entire group can draw from. And in these posts – on ALL the blogs we are learning more about each other. I encourage each of you to do what I do – write those talents and specialty knowledge against the members’ names in your JOURNAL. You are keeping a journal, aren’t you?

    Together we are a mindset.

    I’m taking your reply as a yes, Nigel.

    Score to here: Score to date: Yes = 4 and No = 0.

    Second… Steve from “Pebble Paradise” (love the name & also the pix on your website. Great stuff!)…

    …Steve – GREAT advice! Steve said: “The simplest way to determine if this is ethical is to decide who may be harmed by it?”

    I’m on the same page as you, Steve. That is exactly what I am thinking and I have a SOLUTION which I will get to later that will satisfy everyone, Alex Jeffreys included (who I have consulted on this).

    OK, this reply is getting too wordy. I’ll get to Carl, Will and Mark in a separate reply.

    Thanks Nigel and thanks Steve!

    Regards to you both.

    Gary Simpson

  15. Gary

    Next grouping…

    Sorry to do this folks but there are so many good ideas here and it WILL be useful for others to read if we have any confidentiality issues regarding proprietary information and intellectual ownership later. Mark this in your JOURNAL as a reference point.

    Gee, it’s hard not to make a huge reply with such excellent ideas. But I will try to be concise.

    Carl Janiei

    Carl… more excellent comments. You mentioned about “paid knowledge” and I am very aware of that point – also that Alex Jeffreys is the supplier.

    You also said: “Enough of your own spin on things and you’d be in the clear in my book.” True. And I am taking that on board too. I have a plan.

    So, Carl, you are a yay.

    Score to date: Yes = 5 and No = 0.

    Oh, and Carl… yep I have seen a couple of dead links. I fixed one as Becky and Ian changed their URL. Thanks for the heads up on Anthony Arias. I’ll get to it ASAP.
    Now to…

    Will Lim

    Another great response. Gee, I’m sounding like a stuck record (not that we have those things any more)

    Will, yes it’s all about learning and sharing knowledge. Check out Dean Holland’s blog and also that of Garry Parkes . Sorry to single those guys out but their blogs are very advanced in information sharing. Infact, we are in DANGER of information overload and we must all be understanding of that.

    Use the blogs as a smorgasbord of knowledge.

    Will, you also mentioned contracts. That might be something that Alex Jeffreys may need to think about. Not every member will have the scruples of those who are posting here. Just because people paid for something doesn’t mean that they will protect its content. (Note for Alex?)

    Your reply sounds affirmative.

    So, Score to date: Yes = 6 and No = 0.

    Mark Austin

    Mark, I hear ya bro’. Time is the essence. Good to see you have a “to do” list mine is about a mile (or 1.6 kilometres) long – LOL.

    Score to date: Yes = 7 and No = 0.

    My thanks to Carl, Will and Mark.

    All of you folks are shaping what I am gonna do here and it will be something that will benefit all of us, I hope. I just have to be conscious of my own time restraints.

    Regards to you all.

    Gary Simpson

  16. Dan Boggs

    Hi Gary,

    Regarding your thoughts about putting module notes together. My initial
    reaction is it’s a great idea.
    I suggest you run it by Alex, first .. before going quasi-public with it.
    What might work is to hang loose until the member’s area is
    ready, then post it there.
    But again, the proper thing to do would be to get coach’s permission
    ..savvy ??

    Regards,

    Dan

  17. Gary

    Hi Dan,

    Thanks for re-posting this. Not sure how it got into the other thread. Anyway, you are here now and that is all that matters.

    I’m gonna register you as the first no but – hey – I appreciate alternate points of view. I really do – because it stops me for a moment and makes me think.

    So, to update the scorecard…

    Score to date: Yes = 7 and No = 1.

    Dan, when I first read your thoughts (lost on the other thread – but now deleted from it) I was already thinking along these lines.

    1 – Alex Jeffreys to let me know what I should do (and he has)
    2 – Put it in the Members’ Area (which I hope to do)

    Let me say this… I have, in fact, exchanged several fairly extensive emails with Alex (and yeah, for those of you who are wondering – he is VERY down to earth. He doesn’t call a spade a shovel). We went back and forth on a few different issues – one being “Seagulls and Buzzards” but I’ll save that for that thread.

    I have spent the entire morning sitting in an office at a Motor Vehicle Dealership where my new car was having its 20,000km service. It was a 6 hour wait – dead time. Or so you might think!

    Well, not for me. I don’t waste time.

    Without wanting to sound bombastic or a big shot – I wrote out – long hand (until my hand was literally ACHING like hell from cramp) – the entire genesis of Module 1 – in my own words from 8 chock-a-bloc pages of previously taken hand-written notes.

    Now you may be wondering… how did 8 pages of notes suddenly become 12 pages? Simple. Check out my URL name. I have been studying human motivation for almost 20 years. So, I have appended bits and pieces from some of the 300 or so articles that I have written that are splattered all over the Internet. All relevant, of course. Well, at least I think so – LOL!

    I intend to type it all up in a word doc or pdf – dunno yet – and send it across to Alex for him to look at. Then we shall see if I have done something that he thinks is worthy of distribution. If not, no harm done. All I will have done is set my own course of action.

    Bear in mind also that we have the 2nd Module tomorrow so we will all be completely absorbed with that, me included. Plus I have other businesses to run and I sit on a Strata Board as Chairman and we have this diabolically difficult meeting tonight. So, I am quadrupally challenged for time.

    Anyway, that is where we are at with all this. I hope I am able to produce something very nice for us all to benefit from. In fact, I know I will but, as Dan and several others so correctly point out (and I have been conscious of right from the very start) this baby belongs to Alex Jeffreys. I do not want to step on anybody’s toes or assume a position to which I have no right for.

    I can only make an offer of assistance and that is all I am doing.

    Now, before I shut up (thank God, some of you are saying) part of my methodology for this thread was to find out if such a thing would be inherently useful. Looks like it could be.

    But keep those posts coming. I need the yays to pass the nays by 10.

    In any event, tell me what you think. And if you think I have over-stepped the mark you can tell me that too! I only seek HONEST feedback.

    And thanks again Dan. I truly appreciate your honest interpretation of all this.

    Regards to you all.

    Onward!

    Gary Simpson.

    PS: Check out the “Buzzards and Seagulls” thread for an update.

  18. Garry

    Hi Gary,

    Certainly some interesting discussion points here. My view would be a Yes, providing Alex himself as given his blessing.

    I emailed Alex with an idea for setting up a community forum on my website but he said that it would be better done in the members area and I can certainly see merit in that so I didn’t pursue the idea. But if you have is blessing go for it.

    I’ve just added a very lengthy tutorial video to my website following the poll I ran on what people would like to see. Anyway check it out and let me know what you think.

    Garry
    http://garryparkes.com/

  19. Dan

    Gary,

    Lots of great feedback from everyone! I wasn’t necessarily a ‘nay’, I was
    just trying to be above board out of respect for Alex and what he’s
    providing everyone.
    I’m sure he’ll have more on the subject during tonight’s coaching.

    I’ve made a couple of notes in my journal – remember Alex saying
    from your notes, products will emerge. We could use the many talents
    each of us have to generate HUGE amounts of quality content we could
    share/sell/whatever in our business.
    What a nugget that would be, huh ?

    Think about it !

    Regards,

    Dan

  20. Gary

    Hi Garry,

    I will certainly come over and avail myself of your experience shortly – got a huge number of replies to make here first. But…

    …if you build it – I will come! LOL.

    Score to date: Yes = 8 and No = 1.

    Regards

    Gary Simpson

  21. Gary

    Howdy again Dan,

    Yeah… I know you were kinda half and half. And I understood completely where you were coming from. I was just making a case for the other side but I can see, with provisos, that if certain conditions are met that you would be a YES. So, I’ll put your vote back the other way. So…

    Score to date: Yes = 9 and No = 0.

    Please be assured that I would never release confidential information about this – or, anything really – that is entrusted to me without first running my proposal past the intellectual property owner.

    But this has been some GREAT market research on people’s wants and needs, huh?

    Now, about your “nugget” – I think you’re onto something Dan.

    I can see gold in them thar hills pardner!”

    Right from the start I could see an opportunity for what I call “subsidiary information.” Not that I have any inside information but it stands to reason, doesn’t it? I mean… THINK about this whole thing.

    Each of us have particular skills. Each of us have particular knowledge. And we ALL have different slants on things and we certainly ALL have different personalities.

    No two people would sell the exact same item/product(s) the exact same way.

    Ooh, wait a minute…

    I saw a glint on the horizon… gotta check it out. It could be gold. Then again, if it is, then maybe I might set up shop to sell shovels and picks and pans. Hmm.

    It’s all about POSITIONING.

    Food for thought, huh?

    Regards

    Gary Simpson.

    PS: I gotta say… I am having a lot of FUN here! You guys have got my mind just hummin’.

  22. Nigel Yip

    Hi Gary

    Just a quick fly-by – Some really good post by other students since my last visit. 6 Hours at the car dealer for a service? Did they take the engine apart and rebuild it? Anyway jokes aside, – Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing the results.

    Btw I’ve popped a post on my blog telling others about this excellent and intriguing yet brain stimulating blog post, so I hope thats okay with you.

    All the best
    Nigel

  23. Gary

    Howdy Nigel,

    Well the dealer is a friend of mine. It was a 3 hour service and I hung around for another 3 hours waiting for him to finish his work so we could go to lunch together.

    He gave me the use of a nice office and I spent all that time drafting one heck of an e-book – all hand written. It’s right in front of me now – all set out and ready to type. Hmm, I could outs-ource it but nobody types the way I like it done ( I am so pedantic about that sort of thing), so I’m gonna do it myself. Then I don’t have to keep sending stuff back and forth to make other people angry with me. I’m a real pedantic, nit-picking bastard with stuff like that – LOL!

    Hey thanks for pointing those folks here Nigel. I need one more vote in the affirmative to start typing.

    I’ll get over to Nigel-land as soon as I am able. I got a LOT of catching up to do. Just got back from a really dumb and boring but necessary Strata Meeting. What a friggin’ waste of my valuable time.

    Yep. This blog has been a real corker!

    Catch ya later Nigel.

    Regards

    Gary Simpson

  24. Nigel Yip

    Hi Gary

    Lol, I think my neighbour would be delighted that he’s been nicknamed the Santa Claus of the cul-de-saa street – lol.

    And yeah, it good ot hear that you managed to get your ebook all written up and ready to be typed plus you managed to mixed work with fun.

    I totally understand what you mean about typing and finding the right people to type things the way you like it. I think the problem is that when you type something yourself, you tend to add more stuff to it by elaborate your ideas even further by add your own feelings, emotions and experience to it as well which can’t be said if somebody was typing it straight from your notes, plus I find it give you more satisifaction as well.

    Anyway all the best and keep up hte great work on the blog.

    Have you checked out the members area – Alex has update with the profit-pulling platform

    Best Regards
    Nigel

  25. Nadav

    Hi Gary,

    I was also thinking of posting notes from Alex’s coaching and wasn’t sure if it was ethical. All these comments are really helpful and I’ll be posting my notes on my blog soon.

    Thanks for stopping by my blog and linking to me, I added your site to my blogroll too. It’s really great that all Alex’s students are linking to each other.

    have an great day,
    Nadav

  26. Gary

    Howdy Nigel,

    How are things at the North Pole? Is your neighbour getting ready for his BIG day?

    You forgot to tell me where Nigel-land is.

    Gee, it’s barely 4.30am in Perth, Australia. I got up early to answer all these comments. The early bird gets the worms, so they say. But who wants worms? I want Alex Jeffreys 2nd Module!

    Regards

    Gary Simpson

  27. Gary

    Hi Nadav,

    I know you are only a young feller and you are doing a sterling job over at Nadav-land.

    Nadav, the BEST idea (see the mountain of info above) is just to make GENERAL notes about what you have learned and what you are doing.

    Try to be brief – dear oh dear – fancy me saying that!

    Best rule is… if in doubt ASK – just like I did.

    The blogroll will form a webring or hub that will strengthen this entire cyber community based around the teachings of Alex Jeffreys. I mentioned that very early in the piece and it is good to see so many people are now doing this.

    Basically, folks, if you come to my blog (Gary-land) and leave a comment I will bung your name and site URL into my blogroll and you will get backlinks. As you can all see there are LOTS of visitors and most EXCELLENT commentry here.

    Keep up the good work Nadav!

    Regards

    Gary Simpson

  28. Chelsea

    Hey Gary!

    Thanks for leaving those messages on my blog 10kmyway.com, Yeah I am a student of Alex’s, however, listening to his first module, I decided to open a new blog to brand myself, so please check it out http://www.chelseafilan.com :) I am getting Garry Parkes to change that as well on his blog roll. Nice blog ya got, lots of comments!! great to see that type of activity !!!

    Talk to you soon!!!!!!

  29. Gary

    Howdy Chelsea,

    No probs with a URL change. I’ll do it for you now.

    Regards

    Gary

  30. Hyzat Noor

    Hi Gary,

    Am I too late to join this discussion? Anyway just a 2 cents from me. I would rather say… go ahead Gary. That is a brilliant idea. I say this based on few premises;

    1) The knowledge that we learn from Alex is generally a ‘public secret’. I mean, who has before this known nothing about list building? About giving value for to get back the value? about taking action rather than waiting for the next latest greatest system? I meant those infos are generally a basic and principle in this business.

    2) Even if you have compiled all the lessons that we learn from Alex, it does not mean that ‘outsiders’ will benefit it as much as we benefit from Alex himself. I mean, there is something more than just a lesson. We ve got a mentor, who we communicate directly and who is ‘accountable’, so to speak to his students. I personally get really inspired when I listen to Alex in his webinar. There is more and more value to all of this rather than just a knowledge. I bet, that those who read the compilation will just take it as another ‘ebook’. But for us? No, we really get into it.

    3) There is one thing that we must be aware. We ourselves are getting into this (at least it s true for me) We just take things for granted when it comes to a free product. Seriously. We just dont really appreciate it as compared to when we need to spend our hard earned money for it. Even sometimes people dont really utilize the ebooks/course that they pay for they realize that it requires works and efforts to really get them to it.

    4) Remember, students of Alex have many other privileges. We have got this great community. We have got a great ready-made product together with the whole system prepared for us. Which outsiders will not have.

    5) I believe that, such compilation (summary, bullet points, reviews, what ever name give to it) will only be fully utilized by those who have the basic understanding about it. Yes, I mean the students. Because we learn that from the webinar. We get what i means. We can really appreciate it. We use it just to reinforced our understanding. I bet that, outsiders will still take it really easy.

    With that said, Gary, I vote in affirmative. ;)

    p.s. I have been thinking about the same idea. Really. Maybe our compilation can complement each other?

    Regards
    Hyzat Noor
    http://www.hyzatnoor.com

  31. Phil Jones

    Hey Gary
    This comment is obviously way late but I felt the need to spend my 2 cents here…
    I say if Alex is ok with it then there is no issue. I find it an interesting, and peculiar mystery, that while 500 (or so) bods paid to do Alex’s training, less than two thirds who have forked out their hard-earned cash seem to be actively attending the webinars. Who knows?? Call it human nature… I don’t profess to understand it.
    However, based on the above, ( and quite apart from the legalities concerning plagiarism), you could probably ‘copy and paste’ the entire course verbatim, and watch as casual visitors arrive at your site, read, and move on, not realizing the priceless value sitting before them. However, to those who actually sought Alex out, did their due diligence, paid the man and are actively applying the teachings, well…it’s like being given 8 didgets of the 10 didget code to the Fort Knox vault isn’t it . The remaining two didgets of course ( and the ones that make this whole system a living work )are Alex’s guidance and support, and without his webinars and training vids the info would be of little use to most people.
    Go for it (mayte),
    PJ
    http://www.PhilJonesMarketing.com/blog

  32. Gary

    Hyzat and Phil

    Welcome both of you. How come everyone is so verbose on my threads? – duh… I wonder.

    Hyzat first… I agree with all you wrote above. The essence of this thread was to gauge reaction both in popularity of undertaking such a task and, also, in the ethics and morals of it.

    Since you are a YES I will update the score…

    Score to date: Yes = 10 and No = 0.

    So, it’s a GO… GO… GO!

    Phil next… you said, and I quote…

    “… Call it human nature… I don’t profess to understand it…”

    If you EVER do then PLEASE come and tell me. People are perverse. They always do the thing that is worst for their safety and wellbeing – body and mind! I have absolutely NO IDEA why so few are really running with this. Oh… there would be a range of “reasons,” of course.

    Phil I love the Fort Knox analogy. That was brilliant!

    One little thing I need to tell you mate… use more paragraphs in your text. Go and read my “HINTS & TIPS” 3 and 5. Not being critical here but it will HELP you… more white space needed. LOL!

    Updating the score…

    Score to date: Yes = 11 and No = 0.

    So, here is what I have done. I have written the e-book but I am yet to type it. Hmm… maybe I will outsource it. Anyway, it is on my TO DO list.

    Thanks a lot Hyzat and Phil.

    Gary

  33. Joe Green

    Hello Gary

    I know I’m a bit late but I’m trying to catch up with having just spent several hours setting up my own blog.

    And, yes, I wondered about your question too. Just how much can we reveal to others?

    My own instinct would have been to ask Alex. I’ve no doubt he is going to provide another coaching programme once we have finished (and a more advanced programme for us if he has any sense – which he does) but it might actually help him recruit students if they can read some of what they would learn beforehand.

    If I was Alex I might be thinking, “Hang on. Whenever I do a webinar I’ve got people writing it all down, then using it to create their own ebooks, then they’ll be stting up their own mentoring course and I’ll have lost potential customers”

    On the other hand he might agree that the internet is so big that we can all do the above and he won’t be affected.

    I suppose he didn’t make us sign a contract to keep it all secret but if I was as excited as he is about Internet Marketing and helping people become sucessful I wouldn’t have thought about that either.

    So, miserable though it may sound, add me to the other (0) No’s until Alex gives his approval. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
    Or is this why I can’t make any money from the internet yet?

    Best Wishes
    Joe

  34. Gary

    Hi Joe

    You must be fairly new. Haven’t seen you up and about yet. Thanks for stopping by and making a comment.

    Joe, dunno whether you have read much of this (exhausting) thread but I am cool with all you said.

    Score to date: Yes = 11 and No = 1.

    I will add you to my blogroll for some valuable linkback to you.

    Thanks for stopping by Joe.

    Gary

  35. Al Bushert

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    I am new to this and am trying to catch up with everyone.
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    I would appreciate any and all comments.
    Please add me to your blogroll.

    Thanks for all.

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  36. Vince Craine

    Hello Garry, Vince Here,

    For the past week I have been putting together something very special for all the members in Alex’s community. I was trying to find a way to help members with their blogs as well as teach them about wordpress and all the plug-ins to drive traffic.

    Well I have succeeded – I have put together a WordPress video package (13 Videos) that takes a Newbie or Novice by the hand and teaches you step by step techniques and strategies to bring traffic to your blog as well as taking advantage of all the plug-ins WordPress has to offer. As a bonus you will also learn how to make money with your blog for years to come. These are proven techniques by the top Marketing Guru’s.

    Now I have seen similar products online costing up to 97.00 – But after negotiating with the creator I am giving this away for the cost of a McDonald’s lunch for one. Please tell all your friends in Alex’s community about this Video package so everyone can take advantage of what these videos have to offer. Please sign – up and grab your videos here

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    PS: I would love to hear your comments-
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