I agree. Perry did the crime, he’s paying his penalty. People should just leave him alone. But no, they won’t. Like jackals and vultures they keep attacking him.

The more I get around Internet Marketing and the MORE I learn, the more I see the same seedy people pulling their scams. I have composed what I call a SHIT LIST (’scuse the term) and I already have far too many names on it. These are people who – thru their OWN actions – mostly over and over again – I will NEVER deal with.

I mean, everybody and anybody can make an error of judgement. We all do that from time to time. But some of these people are just outright scammers. I’d be interested to know who that person is, privately. Maybe he is already on my list. Strangely, they are ALL males, so far.

Regards

Gary

I feel it is also partially our own responsibility to highlight these cowboys – With this blog community we have the ideal platrform.

As you say Perry was caught and paid the price, that should be the end of it for him but theres a whole lot more out there unfortunately – even I have been caught once or twice.

Paul Wilson mentioned a guy to me yesterday with who he had done an Ad Swap with and opted into his list several times from the same IP address.

I’m still waiting for his name and web address so we can all blog about him

It does indeed hurt everyone online when jerkos do the sort of thing that you described above. But it also happens in the offline world. Excellent points Phil. Thanks.

@ Linda – you are quite correct. It’s all about what is in the heart. Some people have white hears, some grey and some black.

Gary

Dishonesty is bad for your own business. In the long run it will catch up with you. But sadly, it also hurts ALL our businesses.

I have a friend who was telling me a story just today. She purchased a very well known video product, and downloaded it. When she got it she immediately recognized it was not what she wanted, but had no fear because the seller offered the typical unconditional money-back guarantee … “no questions asked” … “if you’re not happy for any reason” … we all know the drill. But when she emailed him for a refund, he gave her the runaround offering another package of software to coax her to keep the product. After numerous emails, she STILL hasn’t been able to get her money back, and the seller has now cut off communication.

That seller’s “guarantee” is an outright LIE. And what’s the result? It casts a shadow over us all. This is another aspect of truthfulness in our advertising – whatever you promise … stand behind it, or don’t offer it in the first place.

Phil

@ Nigel – I can’t imagine that anything you said above would offend anyone. Then again, who knows? There’s an element of preciousness out there these days that knows no bounds. Some people take offence at any stupid thing these days. Offer them a gate and they take offence. (A small joke. NO?)

One thing you have highlighted is how “Big-Brother” will be increasingly monitoring everybody’s online activities. Is this to make everyone operate fairly? Maybe there’s an element of that. But, the BIG factor is the tax screw. That has ALWAYS been first and foremost for ALL so-called governments – and ALWAYS will be.

@ Jeff – Well Perry used to go off with a bang but he exited via stage door 3B and left ever so quietly. A LOT of people don’t even know what happened or that he is even (allegedly – LOL) gone.

Be prepared for two more well-known names to come into the glare of the spotlights shortly. One, in particular, is gonna shock a STACK of people.

Indeed there are so many jealous vultures and jackals out there just waiting for the mighty to fall. Then they come in with all their hate and venom and hideous insults. These people make me sick too Jeff. Those idiots just wanna dance and p155 all over everyone’s grave. A pox on them!

Thanks for sharing your insights Tom, Nigel and Jeff.

Gary

I had not heard about Perry’s situation. I must be living in the closet.

Well, what do you think I did as soon as I finished reading this post. You guessed it, I Googled “Perry Belcher”. And I must tell you I was shocked at what I found.

Yeah, it’s pretty bad what all the allegations are but who am I to judge. I don’t know how much of this is true and if he’s actually been convicted of any of this stuff. After all, I only spent 5 minutes reading a couple of articles about him.

What I do know is that the garbage that’s coming out of the mouths of people condemning him are despicable. The first article I read was pretty bad. I don’t think this person could string more than three words together without throwing the “F Bomb” in there. That’s a pure sign of intelligence.

Is this someone you want to be listening too. He’s trashing another human being in such ways that make me sick. This is the kind of person that sometimes makes me lose faith in mankind. I just have to keep reminding myself that most people are of good moral character and nothing like this person.

I have to stop myself now because as you know Gary, I can go on and on about things like this and it just raises my blood pressure.

To your point of this article. Honesty! I try to be as honest as I can be and it actually gets me in trouble sometimes. I usually end up giving out too much information and sometimes it costs me. But at least it’s truthful and I can sleep at night.

It’s hard sometimes to remain honest when there’s so much deceit around us both online and offline. I know many people that do certain things to get ahead in this world and they always seem to get away with it. Things that I would never consider doing, and if I did I’m the type that would get caught immediately. I’m just not a very good liar.

It’s just a lot easier to be honest. You don’t have to worry about keeping your story straight so you don’t trip up somewhere and get caught in a lie.

I’ve always felt there was some truth to the saying, “Nice guys finish last”. But I’d rather be the tortoise than the hare in this race and still be able to look at myself in the mirror in the morning.

Later,
Jeff Sargent

Hope you are keeping well and thank you for your informative post about this new topic which seems to be popping across a lot of blogs and various forums. Not to mention that quite few marketers have been taking advantage and started to try and sell us all various forms of internet marketing business protection legal forms and document generators.

Anyway, it is a shame that such an shake up has and is occurring, I guess it was only going to be time the some sort of government agency, department or a encyclopedia of policies, rules and regulations would come through the roof and land on the each marketers desk with a loud thudding sound. (Oh Sorry – apologies, just remembered we’re not allow to hype – only honest facts and opinions)

Additionally, since with the majority of the population being made redundant or forced out of work, most are trans versing to working from home or running their own online business and one can only assume that governments are gearing themselves in readiness to monitor society
expenditure, income and tax with regards to the new digital/info/ e-commerce based businesses.

It’s also apparent that with the case of tax, (one of the government’s main source of income), many working from home or running their first business, many will probably have no idea or did not realize that although working from home, they still need to register their business and update their employment details with their local tax offices. Of course there are some who will take advantage and are collecting state support income whilst also deliberately evading paying tax thus reducing the governments and treasurys main income, and not to forget that they make their money from scamming others quickly and dishonestly.

I guess the situation also makes many marketer and would-be marketers
reflect and emphasize in their minds, the ferocity of change with the internet marketing niche, the greed of human nature, the consequence of the previous and government’s obsession with monitoring individual each and every movement, as well as the greater importance for marketers to developing and nurturing one’s own list, which requires no hype or testimonials to sell or provide to and to provide with an stable income.

Anyway, apologies if I have offended anyone, and my long rant.

Best regards and all the best to you Gary and everyone else
Nigel

A very insightful post which speaks volumes. It is all so important to be honest and truthful especially online where it is easy to hide or try and be anonymous.

By being truthful and honest you can really develop lasting relationships and trust with subscribers and readers and it helps build an ethically sound business.

I like your closing comment, got an ideal situation to pull that out at work, will let you know how it goes down!

Tom

@ James – yeah, it was very unfortunate the route that Perry took. However, I think he realized what he had done was injurious to a lot of people and tried to make amends by doing good things later but the damage had already been already done.

@ Adam – it is sad. The IM world loses a very talented individual. I know this sounds ridiculous but it was like when that idiot shot and murdered John Lennon. Lennon’s 69th birthday would have just passed had he lived. I often wonder about the beautiful songs that he could have shared with the world. I’m not making a comparison – just the lost opportunity that we could have all shared in. That’s what I find sad.

@ Jean – I couldn’t agree more. Words are the most powerful thing that we have. It’s how we communicate. Words can invoke love and words can cause wars. One thing that you can be sure of here Jean is this – if I see or hear of something rantworthy, I’ll have a go darls. That’s for sure!

@ Norene – first time here? Welcome. Yes, it’s pretty easy to see who provides genuine help to others and who is out only to feather his or her own nest. With all the scams on the Internet most people’s BS meters are turned to high frequency. I think Mr Mass Control was taken for a lot of money some years ago. The number that I seem to remember is $1 million.

Thank you all for coming here and sharing your insights.

Gary